Thursday, October 25, 2007

No More Wikipedia

Jessica Smith's Wikipedia page was deleted today. Due to the comments in the deletion log (mostly, 'Wait until she's reviewed by major poetry magazines') -- and in the previous discussion of the deletion review, which it survived -- and this, and this, and the clear ageism of editors, and it generally being a facilitator in perpetuating predominant fallacies as fact, etc, i'm no longer editing at Wikipedia.

I sent Jessica an e-mail before, saying,

...i didn't have to read the discussion to know that part of the reason it was up for deletion was because the article said you were young; and that the person who wrote it could've been more crafty (i.e., not say the words 'young' or 'blog'). That's just one unfair bias i resent at Wikipedia, which is why i fed that guy his tie by quoting the creator of the place. As a tangent, they need to put down their large brush of generalisation and realise that blogs can be accurate and reputable, and non-blog websites can be inaccurate and disreputable.
This 'every blog is disreputable' bullshit has to stop. So has the bias against young people, and not only because it defies Wikipedia creator Jimmy Wales's own ethos ('To me the key thing is getting it right. And if a person's really smart and they're doing fantastic work, I don't care if they're a high school kid or a Harvard professor; it's the work that matters.'). One editor made a fuss about how she is 'under 25', misinterpreting the word 'young': Jessica is 28 years old.

Wikipedia need to calculate and assign levels of reputability to blogs according to a) whether or not the writer/s real name/s are used; b) the credentials of the writer/s and thus their knowledge of or experience in the specialist area; c) the prominence or authority of the blog: are many people frequenting it and using it (i.e., linking to it) as a source of information; d) whether or not what they write is reliable (as in, is it violently biased and non-factual?).

Until Wikipedia sorts itself out, i'm no longer editing there or creating articles.

2/11/07: There are a few places linking to this (thanks), so i'm going to elaborate on what i hope is already obvious. Wikipedia can't use the same brush of 'notability' for every area of everything in life. Poets don't get 'reviewed by major poetry magazines', though that doesn't necessarily mean they're not notable, not doing work that contributes to poetry, not worthy of mentioning. I think that due to the nature of poetry, self-publishing is more so needed than it is in, say, fiction, and is therefore not viewed as disgusting a practise as it is in other areas of writing. Many reputable poets, many with Wikipedia pages, have self-published.

Wikipedia needs to create more applicable and practical parameters for the creation of articles on poets, as well as other fields of practice. (Or maybe someone should create a 'Poetedia'?)

2 comments:

Nihiltres said...

I agree with your opinion on blogs in some respects: just being part of some "official" organization doesn't magically make one's opinions or views suddenly more intelligent, rather it merely weeds out the riff-raff. The problem with blogs and Wikipedia is not so much that blogs are as a species unreliable, but that it is difficult to arbitrarily decide which are reliable and which aren't, or that particular posts are. Also, what makes an expert and how can we confirm that?

Wikipedia's verifiability policy is designed so that if you read a referenced fact on Wikipedia, you can go to the original, reputable source, and know that there, where there will not be any reliability problems, you can confirm your fact. Wikipedia would love to accept the masses of information available on blogs, but one can't verify information there, so keeping to the academic is preferred. Unfortunate, but necessary for consistent reliability.

Kevin Doran said...

I by no means mean affiliation with any 'official' organisation.

Wikipedia doesn't reference solely the academic; they quote journalistic articles and features, with intentional bias or otherwise on the writer's part, and house bias. I don't think a blog is any more or less reputable or verifiable a source of information than other types of websites.

What if a well-known, reputable writer -- say, Neil Gaiman -- wrote factual inside information worthy of being included and referenced, on their blog? He's clearly a) using his real name, so his information has a clear source; b) an award-winning writer with decades of experience in many different genres and formats, and thus with a large amount of experience and knowledge of both writing and the writing industry, and others (film, comics, etc); c) having a prominent blog because he's a prominent identity, which is most likely read by thousands every day; d) consistently writing reliable and factual information. Following these guidelines, is Gaiman not a reliable expert? How is Gaiman's blog not verifiable, though websites are (and 'consistently reliable')? Does Wikipedia do background checks on the writers of particular articles/features, checking if they've shown any clear biases? (No.)